While there is a “spectrum” that encompasses autistic conditions, the array is wide enough that differentiating between the behaviors and symptoms is preferred for many reasons, much the same way that AD/HD has at least four subcategories (inattentive, hyperactive, combined, NOS). As for NLD, perhaps it would be more appropriate to refer to an umbrella of more specific learning disorders, and NLD would be one subcategory. Thus, someone with poor visual/perceptual skills, reading comprehension issues might be more “classically” NLD, while someone with weakened visual/spatial understanding but good logic skills might fall under a visual/spatial LD. ?? Just a thought, but in any event, the DSM has always failed to address specific learning disabilities in any comprehensive format–there is no category for specific reading disorders such as dyslexia, for example, yet practitioners are expected to cite the DSM codes.
Life Development Institute June 3, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Yes, the points you bring up are totally on target,, and can be seen/read on many forums/blogs/journals devoted to AS, NLD, and ADHD. I did see on the APA DSM-V site in the neurodevelopmental disorder section, that conditions associated with Learning Disabilities such as dyslexia & dyscalcula have been labeled/coded as such. One issue I have with this particular section, is that there seems to be no consideration for LD-related issues of processing, sequencing, retention, and utilization of information… it has been limited to academic manifestations, without consideration of the impacts to work, socialization, and other functional aspects/activities of daily living. Please consider passing the word about public commentary on the APA website regarding your points can be made until June 15, 2011.
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Life Development Institute June 8, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Thanks for the article link to your site (which I enjoyed browsing!) and am cross-posting your site URL here: http://www.sociabilities.com/?p=167
Nicole LeBlanc January 21, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Please leave the DSM alone! Dont Make any changes that will deny people with ASD access to services! This is especially urgent for adults with PDD-NOS or invisible autism. Even though I am smart and have an IQ that is 78 my social, orgainzational, and independent living skills are weaks , plus I could be at risk for abuse I Didnt have a medicaid waiver.
noclaut September 7, 2014 at 11:05 am
NVLD is a misleading name, it used to mean really complex disorder, which should be classified in the same group with “classic” AS and PDDs. It is MUCH MORE than a learning disorder. Learning disorder is often only one of the consequences of “NVLD”. Names such as “social communication disorder” and “social learning disorder” are even larger understatements. “Social NVLD” appear to be socio-emotional counterpart of mild (or even moderate) intellectual disability. NVLD is in some casus far much too pervasive to be called just learning, social or communicational disorder. Some forms can make you “aloof” nad give you bizarrities or problematic disorders in emotional, behavioral and sensory areas. It is just a form of Asperger’s then.
While there is a “spectrum” that encompasses autistic conditions, the array is wide enough that differentiating between the behaviors and symptoms is preferred for many reasons, much the same way that AD/HD has at least four subcategories (inattentive, hyperactive, combined, NOS).
As for NLD, perhaps it would be more appropriate to refer to an umbrella of more specific learning disorders, and NLD would be one subcategory. Thus, someone with poor visual/perceptual skills, reading comprehension issues might be more “classically” NLD, while someone with weakened visual/spatial understanding but good logic skills might fall under a visual/spatial LD. ?? Just a thought, but in any event, the DSM has always failed to address specific learning disabilities in any comprehensive format–there is no category for specific reading disorders such as dyslexia, for example, yet practitioners are expected to cite the DSM codes.
Yes, the points you bring up are totally on target,, and can be seen/read on many forums/blogs/journals devoted to AS, NLD, and ADHD. I did see on the APA DSM-V site in the neurodevelopmental disorder section, that conditions associated with Learning Disabilities such as dyslexia & dyscalcula have been labeled/coded as such. One issue I have with this particular section, is that there seems to be no consideration for LD-related issues of processing, sequencing, retention, and utilization of information… it has been limited to academic manifestations, without consideration of the impacts to work, socialization, and other functional aspects/activities of daily living. Please consider passing the word about public commentary on the APA website regarding your points can be made until June 15, 2011.
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[…] good article on the subject is here, but you can also go right to the APA (“American Psychiatric Association,” which has […]
Thanks for the article link to your site (which I enjoyed browsing!) and am cross-posting your site URL here: http://www.sociabilities.com/?p=167
Please leave the DSM alone! Dont Make any changes that will deny people with ASD access to services! This is especially urgent for adults with PDD-NOS or invisible autism. Even though I am smart and have an IQ that is 78 my social, orgainzational, and independent living skills are weaks , plus I could be at risk for abuse I Didnt have a medicaid waiver.
NVLD is a misleading name, it used to mean really complex disorder, which should be classified in the same group with “classic” AS and PDDs. It is MUCH MORE than a learning disorder. Learning disorder is often only one of the consequences of “NVLD”. Names such as “social communication disorder” and “social learning disorder” are even larger understatements. “Social NVLD” appear to be socio-emotional counterpart of mild (or even moderate) intellectual disability. NVLD is in some casus far much too pervasive to be called just learning, social or communicational disorder. Some forms can make you “aloof” nad give you bizarrities or problematic disorders in emotional, behavioral and sensory areas. It is just a form of Asperger’s then.